Thursday, January 27, 2011

Egypt: State power, protest, and transnational society

What a timely example.

We discussed in class today that the protests in Tunisia (last week) and Egypt (this week) present a timely example of how states will attempt to suppress dissent, communication, and the spread of information that shows how the state is being used against the citizens of a country.   Here is a discussion of related issues and events:  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f9zac/i_was_caught_and_brutally_tortured_in_the_recent/

Social media and digital recording mechanisms threaten repressive regimes because they allow people to both coordinate their actions and record evidence of what actually happened.   Earlier this week the Anonymous protest movement expressed support for protesters in Egypt, and this is an apparent reply that seeks to reinforce peoples commitment to support protesters in Egypt. [update:  the Egyptian government is apparently blocking all access to the internet in advance of the protests planned for Friday;  info leaked through phone call, mentioned on reddit thread] [[update to the update:  this CNN official news source seems to suggest that the governement is not actually shutting down the internet in Egypt but that it is simply suffering from crowding and over-demand.  Although this might be possible, this explanation seems pretty unlikely, especially given the strategic advantage for the state to suppress free communication in such events, and the clear prior examples in Burma and elsewhere where local governments strategically blocked access to internet and social media that protesters can use to overcome their organizational disadvantage.]]

you can run just-ping yourself--  but cairo is down according to this tool.

http://www.just-ping.com/index.php?vh=yahoo.com&c=&s=ping!&vtt=1296171901&vhost=_&c=

The crux of the Egyptians' protest seems to center on the issues of rule of law, corruption, and the failure of the state to provide fair development of public goods.   They want the freedoms, liberties, rights and institutions on which our country was founded.   It is a fascinating example of how the ideas inherent in a democratic model can spread and influence behavior and perception of what governmental regimes are fair and just.

"We will not be silenced! Whether you're a Christian, whether you're a Muslim,
 whether you're an atheist, you will demand you're god damned rights! 
And we will have our rights, one way or the other! We will never be silenced!"

This man is upset because he wants what we have in our constitution and bill of rights, and instead Egypt offers corruption, cronyism, and violent repression.  Here is a link to this video that shows his comments and some protest events of the recent days (Jan 25th)   http://vimeo.com/19248086

The ideas behind our political institutions seem to be operating as memes, spreading on virtue of their own merit through international interaction made easier by internet, cell phones, etc.  To the extent that societies are defined by populations united by social interaction, then these recent events suggest that boundaries between nations and cultures are being lessened; and under such conditions demand for democracy is a growing infection.   China was right to guess that the internet was a threat to their authoritarian regime.

9 comments:

  1. Wow. This is ridiculous. I cannot believe a government would do this. I can't even begin to imagine what is happening there right now. I wish for the best.

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  2. I really can't say that I am 100% surprised about a government doing something as cruel as beating a citizen to death. This world that we live in is a cruel place where in the effort of seeking justice the police can infringe upon that justice if it is not convenient for them. I really feel for the protester who spoke about pursuing human rights no matter what religion, race, creed that you follow. More people need to stand for something like that because, I believe that many more groups of people/ citizens around the world are living in oppression and aren't doing anything about it instead of living their lives under terror.

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  3. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/01/28/egypt.protests/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

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  4. This is exactly what happened in the Iran Election Protest of 2009-2010, Tehran was censoring the internet and all worldwide media. Many were illegally arrested and killed in the protesting the most famous being a girl named Neda who was randomly shot on the streets in the middle of the protest. It's a very gruesome video on YouTube. The link for the protest on Wikipedia is as follows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932010_Iranian_election_protests#Censorship

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  5. I'm more surprised at the response from Sec. of the State Clinton. She says she gives full support to the Egyptian gov't and trusts that they will settle this uprising without further bloodshed. That statement is a joke and we (the american people) have completely ignored the reaction from inside our own gov't.

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  6. @ar368009:

    Can you say Rodney King?
    Granted that wasn't on a national level of corruption, but still lead to the same rioting senerios we see now

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  7. Howdy all-

    I found this page helpful in learning more about what is going on. I am pasting some of the Q&A found on it in my comment-- as it discusses the prospects for democracy in Tunisia and Egypt.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates

    BELOW HERE is QUOTED from link above

    4.56pm:CloseLink to this update: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates#block-93 Here are some of the best bits from the live Q&A on the Middle East protests, which the Guardian website hosted today. Answering the questions was Brian Whitaker, former Middle East editor and current editor with CIF.

    Q. A question about an Eqyptian democracy... is there a basis for hope? is there a political culture that can step up to represent the people and what role will youth play in the new landscape?

    Brian's Answer: Egypt already has the infrastructure to turn into a working democracy -- elected parliament, long-established political parties, etc. The problem is the the NDP has monopolised this system for a very long time.
    So the transition to a working democracy would not be all that difficult, though I would expect it to be a somewhat flawed democracy for some time - maybe like some of the East European or Latin American countries.
    One problem is that most of the opposition parties are just as hidebound as the regime. The younger "Facebook generation" doesn't seem to have much interest in them and prefers to do things in its own way. Youth movements are going to become more and more important, and they are a very hopeful sign.

    Q. What are the chances that all this could be repeated in Syria?

    Brian's answer: I was discussing that with an Arab friend yesterday. We both felt that it would be very difficult at present in Syria to organise the kind of protests seen in Tunisia and Egypt. One thing you need for it to happen is a civil society structure of some kind, whether it's trade unions, opposition parties or NGOs, plus a lot of internet users. I don't think Syria has that. Instead, it as a very proficient secret police.
    That said, I would expect the Syrian regime to be very scared. Yemenis have told me of the panic in the Marxist regime in the PDRY following the revolution in Romania in 1989 -- they feared it could happen to them. I would expect similar fears in the Syrian regime.
    Who knows? Could they be the ones who decide to reform rather than waiting to be toppled?

    Q. How likely do you think it is that these uprisings will drive Egypt & Tunisia towards democracy? Is it likely that these situations will descend into sectarian or ethnic conflict as we seen in Kyrgyzstan last year?

    Brian's answer: Adapting to democracy will be a lot easier in Tunisia and Egypt than it was in Iraq. There are no major ethnic issues; Egypt does have something of a sectarian problem but it is not insurmountable

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  8. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/?foo=bar

    A very good link to follow the events in Egypt. Live stream and everything.

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  9. This is just sad to see in the world of today however it is not uncommon. I am proud of those who are standing up for their rights and what they believe in. It is examples like these that make appreciate and love America and everyone who defends our freedom and our rights

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